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Emne: SmartWi - Findes der et alternativ
Skrevet af: humperdink
Emne: SmartWi - Findes der et alternativ
Skrevet den: 22-Maj-2008 kl. 21:39

Set i lyset af Den varselede http://www.recordere.dk/indhold/templates/design.aspx?articleid=1716&zoneid=5 - stigning på kortgebyr hos YouSee er deling af smartcards som eksempelvia med produktet http://www.smartwi.net/prods.html - SmartWi blevet en attraktiv måde at slippe lidt billigere, hvis man har flere smartcards i husstanden. Jeg har selv 5!

Jeg har dog selv prøvet SmartWi, men returnerede det da jeg ikke synes det var særligt stabilt.

Er der nogen der kender andre produkter med samme funktionalitet som SmartWi?

 




Svar:
Skrevet af: humperdink
Skrevet den: 22-Maj-2008 kl. 23:05

Har http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&q=smartcard+splitter&btnG=S%C3%B8g&meta= - googlet lidt og fundet frem til disse kortsplittere... nogen der kender dem?:

http://bmradio.dk/kort-splitter-300/future-wireless-kort-splitter-2377.html - http://bmradio.dk/kort-splitter-300/future-wireless-kort-spl itter-2377.html

http://www.cardsplitter.com/ - http://www.cardsplitter.com/

http://www.smartcardsplitter.com/ - http://www.smartcardsplitter.com/

http://www.iwavecard.com/ - http://www.iwavecard.com/

http://www.siamdst.com/smartextendENG.htm - http://www.siamdst.com/smartextendENG.htm

http://www.satnet.com.pl/-produkty/pid,136/Universal-SmartCard-Splitter-TURBO - http://www.satnet.com.pl/-produkty/pid,136/Universal-SmartCa rd-Splitter-TURBO



Skrevet af: Henrik_45
Skrevet den: 23-Maj-2008 kl. 17:16
Jeg er med på en lytter...


Skrevet af: Marco
Skrevet den: 23-Maj-2008 kl. 17:32
Også jeg...


Skrevet af: humperdink
Skrevet den: 24-Maj-2008 kl. 14:55

Har lagt en forespørgsel ind hos BM Radio ... men resultatet var desværre at http://bmradio.dk/kort-splitter-300/future-wireless-kort-splitter-2377.html - Future Wireless Kort splitter ikke fungerer med YouSee

 



Skrevet af: olhq
Skrevet den: 28-Maj-2008 kl. 20:58

 

Kontakt evt. denne

http://parabolspecialist.dk/shop/kortsplitter-143c1.html - http://parabolspecialist.dk/shop/kortsplitter-143c1.html

Oluf



Skrevet af: JesperLund
Skrevet den: 28-Maj-2008 kl. 21:39
Oprindeligt skrevet af olhq olhq skrev:

Kontakt evt. denne

http://parabolspecialist.dk/shop/kortsplitter-143c1.html - http://parabolspecialist.dk/shop/kortsplitter-143c1.html

Oluf



Det er SmartWi, og OP ønsker et alternativ...


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Skrevet af: humperdink
Skrevet den: 26-August-2008 kl. 08:32

Efter lang tids søgen og efter at YouSee's trusselsbrev om at kortbegyret vil stige til kr. 400,-/årligt landede i postkassen, tog jeg chancen og købte et sæt http://bmradio.dk/kort-splitter-300/future-wireless-kort-splitter-2377.html - Future Wireless Kort Splitter fra BM-Radio, selvom de tidligere har afvist at dette sæt fungerer sammen med YouSee.

Det skulle vise sig at det var FORKERT  eller i hvertfald delvist forkert -  for det virker fremragende med YouSee - bortset fra min gamle Sagem 60 selector - den accepterer ikke pseudokortene, MEN den nye Samsung SMT-H3106 HD receiver og mine FireDTV/FloppyDTV tunere fungerer aldeles udmærket med dette sæt.

Jeg købte i første omgang kun ét sæt bare for at teste, men jeg har bestilt et ekstra sæt, da jeg har 6 tunere, der skal fodres med kort for at fungere. Dette giver en besparelse på ikke mindre en kr. 2.000,-/årligt i kortgebyrer for mit vedkommende, da jeg kan aflevere 5 kort tilbage til YouSee.

Læg desuden mærke til at prisen er sat ned fra 1.195,- til 850,-

Lidt reklame for produktet: http://www.misco.se/ExtraContent/12/1952/File/fwc-100.pdf - http://www.misco.se/ExtraContent/12/1952/File/fwc-100.pdf



Skrevet af: brevald
Skrevet den: 26-August-2008 kl. 20:19

Hvad med kanal skift hastighed? Især ved kodet kanaler f.eks. Canal+?



Skrevet af: humperdink
Skrevet den: 26-August-2008 kl. 21:22

Kanalskift foregår ved samme hastighed som normalt - man mærker ikke forskel overhovedet



Skrevet af: brevald
Skrevet den: 26-August-2008 kl. 23:17
Oprindeligt skrevet af humperdink humperdink skrev:

Kanalskift foregår ved samme hastighed som normalt - man mærker ikke forskel overhovedet

 

Ja, men jeg mener egentlig også mere hvor hurtigt billede dukkede op når man havde skiftet kanal.. Har prøvet et SmartWi og der gik flere sekunder før billede dukkede op på kodede kanaler som f.eks. Canal+

 

Kan selvfølgelig være et dårligt radiosignal fra SmartWi senderen.

 

Kunne være man skulle prøve dette..



Skrevet af: humperdink
Skrevet den: 27-August-2008 kl. 07:27

Som jeg skriver er hastigheden den samme som med originalkortet - både med mine FireDTV/FloppyDTV tunere og Samsung SMT-H3106 receiveren.



Skrevet af: Business101
Skrevet den: 27-August-2008 kl. 08:00
er der nogen der har prøvet den sammen med viasat?

kan se at nds ikke er på listen





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Skrevet af: niepe
Skrevet den: 27-August-2008 kl. 08:19
Oprindeligt skrevet af humperdink humperdink skrev:

Som jeg skriver er hastigheden den samme som med originalkortet - både med mine FireDTV/FloppyDTV tunere og Samsung SMT-H3106 receiveren.

Hvor langt rækker en sådanne sender? Har du nogen erfaring med dette?

/niepe



Skrevet af: humperdink
Skrevet den: 27-August-2008 kl. 08:36
Jeg har ikke leget med rækkevidden, men jeg har dog masterenheden stående i min stue og min FloppyDTV TV tuner i min PC på kontoret ved siden af fungerer fint - så der er i hvert fald ingen problemer på 7 meters afstand med en murstensvæg imellem.


Skrevet af: Business101
Skrevet den: 27-August-2008 kl. 10:24
jeg vil lige gøre opmærksom på at det sæt som bm radio sælger er en kopi at originalsplitteren
http://www.cardsplitter.com/ - http://www.cardsplitter.com/



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Dreambox dm500-s, Popcorn Hour

Windows Home Server

SB3 og Squeezebox Duet







Skrevet af: fltk
Skrevet den: 27-August-2008 kl. 10:50

Oprindeligt skrevet af Business101 Business101 skrev:

jeg vil lige gøre opmærksom på at det sæt som bm radio sælger er en kopi at originalsplitteren
http://www.cardsplitter.com/ - http://www.cardsplitter.com/

Der er noget helt galt med dit link.

Flemming



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Skrevet af: Business101
Skrevet den: 27-August-2008 kl. 10:55
virker fint her??

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KEF KHT2005.2

Dreambox dm500-s, Popcorn Hour

Windows Home Server

SB3 og Squeezebox Duet







Skrevet af: fltk
Skrevet den: 27-August-2008 kl. 11:16

Oprindeligt skrevet af Business101 Business101 skrev:

virker fint her??

Det var da utroligt, jeg havner på denne side: http://www.atspace.com/dedicated-web-server-hosting-domain-articles-news/basics.html - http://www.atspace.com/dedicated-web-server-hosting-domain-a rticles-news/basics.html

Flemming



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AX Quadbox med 3x DVB-C/T2 og 1x S2 med OpenVix
Dune HD Realbox 4K
HTPC/Terratec DVB-C/-T/DVBViewer
Thomson THA100


Skrevet af: Business101
Skrevet den: 27-August-2008 kl. 11:54
hej,
det gør jeg også hvis jeg bruger ie7, men ikke med firefox!




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KEF KHT2005.2

Dreambox dm500-s, Popcorn Hour

Windows Home Server

SB3 og Squeezebox Duet







Skrevet af: fast2night
Skrevet den: 27-August-2008 kl. 12:18
Oprindeligt skrevet af Business101 Business101 skrev:

hej,
det gør jeg også hvis jeg bruger ie7, men ikke med firefox!



Jo - Min FF 3.0 gør det samme.


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Skrevet af: moho
Skrevet den: 27-August-2008 kl. 14:58
I et split sekund IE, hvorefter der kommer domain side op. Har ikke lige prøvet FireFox

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Skrevet af: atdjei
Skrevet den: 28-August-2008 kl. 12:40
Oprindeligt skrevet af humperdink humperdink skrev:

Efter lang tids søgen og efter at YouSee's trusselsbrev om at kortbegyret vil stige til kr. 400,-/årligt landede i postkassen, tog jeg chancen og købte et sæt http://bmradio.dk/kort-splitter-300/future-wireless-kort-splitter-2377.html - Future Wireless Kort Splitter fra BM-Radio, selvom de tidligere har afvist at dette sæt fungerer sammen med YouSee.

Det skulle vise sig at det var FORKERT  eller i hvertfald delvist forkert -  for det virker fremragende med YouSee - bortset fra min gamle Sagem 60 selector - den accepterer ikke pseudokortene, MEN den nye Samsung SMT-H3106 HD receiver og mine FireDTV/FloppyDTV tunere fungerer aldeles udmærket med dette sæt.

Jeg købte i første omgang kun ét sæt bare for at teste, men jeg har bestilt et ekstra sæt, da jeg har 6 tunere, der skal fodres med kort for at fungere. Dette giver en besparelse på ikke mindre en kr. 2.000,-/årligt i kortgebyrer for mit vedkommende, da jeg kan aflevere 5 kort tilbage til YouSee.

Læg desuden mærke til at prisen er sat ned fra 1.195,- til 850,-

Lidt reklame for produktet: http://www.misco.se/ExtraContent/12/1952/File/fwc-100.pdf - http://www.misco.se/ExtraContent/12/1952/File/fwc-100.pdf

Hej

Så fik jeg også købt dette splitter sæt, bestilte det Onsdag morgen, og modtog det i dag.

Det virker perfekt med både Samsung boksen og Sagem HD 81 boksen.

Man skruer bare antennerne på, indsætter kortene og tænder, så virker det

Lige et indput herfra.

Hilsen Jimmi



Skrevet af: Bjur
Skrevet den: 28-August-2008 kl. 13:02
Hvor lang afstand?
Er der en af jer der gider teste om man f.eks. kan få signal ved ca. 10-15 meter?


Skrevet af: atdjei
Skrevet den: 28-August-2008 kl. 13:20

Oprindeligt skrevet af Bjur Bjur skrev:

Hvor lang afstand?
Er der en af jer der gider teste om man f.eks. kan få signal ved ca. 10-15 meter?

Jeg bor i en lille lejlighed, så jeg har ikke de afstande, men humperdink har 6 kort tilsluttet, så han må have et stort hus. Men senderen med orginal kortet kan stilles ca. i midten, den skal kun tilsluttes strøm.

Hilsen Jimmi



Skrevet af: fltk
Skrevet den: 28-August-2008 kl. 13:27
Oprindeligt skrevet af atdjei atdjei skrev:

Det virker perfekt med både Samsung boksen og Sagem HD 81 boksen.

Er det DVB-S bokse? Hvis ikke, er der så nogen der ved om det virker med Viasat og Canal Digital via satboks?

Flemming 



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Thomson THA100


Skrevet af: humperdink
Skrevet den: 28-August-2008 kl. 13:33

Så STORT er mit hus nu heller ikke  - de 4 af kortene sidder i Media Center TV tunere - de 2 resterende sidder i 2 TV. - alt sammen inden for få kvadrameter - men jeg kan nok godt komme 10 meter væk, hvis jeg går på 1. salen.

Mht. stabilitet, så har jeg oplevet en del udfald de sidste par dage!!! Jeg har mit trådløse netværk mistænkt for at drille, men jeg er ikke sikker.



Skrevet af: Business101
Skrevet den: 28-August-2008 kl. 13:36
poster lige hvad jeg fandt omkring  Future Wireless Kort Splitterpå siden www.cardsplitter.com

Ok, i will comment the TRUTH in between the text of this translation.

 

> 

> Effren,

> this is what Future wrote as an answer in their forum when a member

> claimed that they had copied the cardsplitter. Following has been

> translated from Swedish to English with Google translation tool so it is

> not a perfect translation.

______________

 

> www.cardsplitter.com is original, but the older version. This page is

 

It's the original. Not older version. The SW, you guys copied by chip

busting, paying some Chinese company. You have the older SW, as you can

not develop anything. The HW is copied 1:1 (again using some shit ass

Chinese or else reverse engineering team), what idiots you all are.  You

have not developed anything. You're zeros. You only made a carton box,

with your fake, lie, brand name, you made a user manual yourself. That's

all. HW SW development was done entirely 1-2 years before (!) you got

involved selling CSPRO-64's. You only sent few receivers over to adapt

timing! LOL. All was there already. Your contribution is 0.1%, jackass.

 

> owned by our former partner in Thailand which we have been through and

Not a partner, you imbecile! You was a dealer, a customer. You would hump

your pet backwards if you had the chance to do so. Partner with you ? God

beware.

 

> developed the product with for several years.

 

I developed it during 3 years. You bought it as Swedish dealer and sent

few receiver to adapt timing. What did you develop, writing the user

manual ? You're real genius, mate!

 

> The problem has been the low quality of electronics, and after that we

 

This is developing phases of a product. At beginning the modules had to be

soldered on slave PCB's by hand, as there was no single unit slave PCB

design at that time.

 

> marketed it under 2 years in Sweden with 100 heard hours of

Shut up. See the proof, i have published your order history. You ordered

exact 1 year only and thus your marketing in Sweden was for 1 year.

 

> troubleshooting ropes etc so we could not continue cooperation with him.

Why don't you tell about the superb support you received ?

 

> We could not get involved with black business, which is the only thing

> that is intesant of our former partner.

Hey former dealer, shut up with the lies. You need a brain surgery to get

away from lying. It's in your DNA, nobody can help you. These persons are

liars all over. We're around since a decade, you're there just since March

of this year 2008. Who is doing black business, by hijacking other persons

development and work?

 

> The software, we have org and will mpg4 implamentering from it during

> the autumn and it is one thing that will never be resolved by our former

> employees in Thailand.

Now we're employees ? LOL. Your mouth must be stinking. You're a person

from hell, dear former dealer, former customer from Sweden!

 

> He feels run over and bitter but I can guarantee we offered very good

Idiot, first copy the HW 1:1 together with busting the chips to rob the

software, then offer partnership... To hell with you.

 

 

> conditions but have been rejected several times. In the end, we saw no

You still don't understand why ? With such low character people as you are

there is no way to do any business. This headache is the result. I offered

you to correct your criminal act to prevent all this, you refused.

 

> alternative but to run our own Race. We have put a great deal of time

> and money on development, which he has not done. And it is we who made

Trashcans stink, as do lies. Lie, lie, lie. You invested nothing, no

money, no brain, no time. You talk about your investment to hijack and

then produce the copy product HW. That's it.

 

> the Future cardsplitter have a good and gedigert goods brand and

> guarantee of good quality.

Total the opposite. It's rotten filthy brand, a copy, a robbery, a

criminal entity.

 

> We are rock hard with the standards of quality control as our former

Not you, you idiot, you produce in China, that company has it's standard

in production. You do nothing, but to sit on your fat ass and think how to

create more lies.

 

> employees are not. Wait and see what judgement to the unlikely bought a

Shut up already! You're former dealer for Sweden.

 

> cs pro64 (handlöd in thailand) We take no responsibility for these

Idiot, you talk about 2 years back. I've already explained. It's it's

looks at a certain earlier development period. You sold only of the type

that you describe during your 1 year dealership. Why did you sell those if

those were so bad ?

 

> products.

> We keep a straight and honest profile against him despite the person's

You got nothing bad to talk about me, as i didn't damage you! That's why.

 

> name attacks publishing, etc., in the edited mail conversations etc,

Did you ask yourself why ? Because you know how disgusting your act is. I

do the right thing to make the truth get public.

 

> which never took place. The sole purpose has been to miss credit to us

Of course they took place, idiot! You can denounce them how much you want.

There is no smoke without fire!

 

> and nothing else.

> We are and will continue each developer of Future cardsplitter than what

You're only a fat ass sitting on it, no clues about developing HW or SW.

Lie more until you die.

 

> is printed on a bitter former co-worker's website in Thailand.

Idiot, not a co-worker. The original product's website.

http://www.cardsplitter.com which is around since 9 years.

 

 

> I hope that this speech to clarify how it is.

Yes, it clarify how much character you lack.

 

Efren

CardSplitter

 

> Kenneth / Jonny

> Future "Imitation" Europe

> 

I have corrected your company name to tell the truth. Even your company

name is filled with lies.

 

+++++++++++++

 

 

 

They copied CSPRO-64 B+BBB.

CSPRO-64 was developed by CardsSplitter.com from beginning of 2006 onwards.

 

They can not develop and upgrade Firmware. The codes are too complex to do so.

A product without future support!

They have copied metal casing design, PCB designs, modules and the codes 1:1.

They lied to you and fake you by telling that they have their own product.

 

Such people would rob a bank if they had a chance and feel no remorse doing so.

 

Nobody wants to make business with a liar, a robber and a criminal.

Namely: a parasite.

If you still do, after you know all these facts, then you're no different to them.

 

Why didn't they develop their own goddamn product ? Fair competition is welcome.

 

They were succesful copying on February 2008, after which orders seized.

 

 

A friend of mine describes his thougths like this:

"that ash*le made you so busy for more than a year to

make HW, upgrade SW and make it great and bug free,

the way he want to get things here!??

and all the time he was getting good price i'm sure,

as you think he was fighting competition.

they are strangers who stole our ideas, he betrade

your confidence and trust!

i don't believe how a human can be so evil!

who is behind this is an animal sure, we can't say

human, no way!"

 

 

 

I'm not the dealer; we're CardSplitter, the true owner, developer and manufacturer.

That what you get in these blue boxes is a full copy and a scam. I was very shocked, too,

how they could pull off such thing.

 

They was just a dealer for Sweden, now he want's to be me, and take over the world with this copy!!!!!!

Can you imagine the criminal mind he has?

 

Can you help me to spread this email to other affected dealer and whole seller in Sweden, Denmark who don't

know that they're in a deep scam by Teknikcompaniet/Futureino ? And dealing with a product without future

and with no more code updates ?

 

See 2 years old photo here and his slave, how funny they copied real 1:1...

http://cardsplitter.com/v3_slab0.jpg

 

They don't have A+AAA or C+CCC, they copied only B+BBB !!!! They don't have any cable type splitter CSPRO-4/CSPRO-8 and CSPRO-16, not to talk of CSPRO Light CSL-5/-6.

 

 

Below last emails and full order history, FYI.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++

 

 

> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:19:50 -0700 (PDT)

> From: cspro4 <cspro4@yahoo.com>

> Subject: Re: About the copy of the cs

> To: Kenneth H <kennethhenbo@hotmail.com>

>

> See in your text below:

>

> --- Kenneth H <kennethhenbo@hotmail.com> wrote:

>

> >

> > This is the cable ver.

> >

> >

> >

> > http://www.bluetvsat.com/product/shareservsplitter/seca%20ca rd%20splitter.htm

> >

>

> Stop kidding me. I know this crap long ago. It's only SECA. Nothing special with it, just

> cheap price.

>

>

> >

> > The wirless are out there some where to. Its only to searth its not so hard to find.

>

> Really ? Why don't you show me ?

> Yes, only on your websites.. :-(

>

>

> >

> > Its out on 2 Asian selling websites.

> >

>

> Where ?

> Or is this a quiz ?

>

> >

> > We dont like that you acuse us to copy ...  In China they do what ever. We have a good contact

>

> Tell me who copied my product ? China address, website, name.

> Why do you protect them ? Why do you hide their identity ?

>

>

> > now with the factory that make it and a very very very good price to. Now we can sell it to

> > distributers

>

>

> I sell it for 44 EUR. What is your price  ?

>

>

> >

> > .We dont sell at all to end costumers any more.

>

> You better keep end customer sales. I will make your resellers know of your act. They will buy

> the

> original from me, at cheap price, cheaper than your price. I mean it, if you give them @ 30 EUR,

> i

> will give them at 25 EUR. Hope you understand.

>

> You're businessman. I offer to you 5 EUR cheaper than you get from China factory ? Will you buy

> from me ? For a complete set in a box.

>

>

>

> >

> > Regards

> > Jonny/Peter/Kenneth.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

 

 

 

 

> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:01:04 -0700 (PDT)

> From: cspro4 <cspro4@yahoo.com>

> Subject: Re: SV: [SPAM] Re: SV: [SPAM] Re: SV: Warning

> To: Teknikcompaniet <teknikcompaniet@bahnhof.se>

>

> Pls see in your text...

>

>

> --- Teknikcompaniet <teknikcompaniet@bahnhof.se> wrote:

>

> > Hello,

> >

> > What we want to do in this situation and how we think of a future

> > cooperation between us.

> > We want to ask you to join us as a partner. We know that together we can we

> > can be unbeatable in this, both the development of the hardware and you in

> > software not only in small scale.

>

> Do not downgrade me to look like SW developer only. This is only small portion of me.

>

>

> > We have the attention to make the cardsplitter or as we like to call it

> > (DigitalTv Smartcard Devider) to an entertainment device that should be in

> > every home in the whole Europe.

> What is the invention here ? Only a fancy name on top of a copied hardware/firmware of mine ?

>

> > The cardsplitter you make are no good quality (I think you know that to) we

> Do you mean the hand-soldered B slaves ? Yes, they were soldered by hand and low quality. As you

> know we already have one-pcb slave B that you took in 100 pcs in your last order. The quality of

> these slaves is perfect.

> Master units, depends on qty and i can make super quality master, too.

>

> > have to repair a lot of them, and no antennas and no power unit and this

> Repair was in the beginning. Later this was reduced. If you had continued buying, we would have

> perfected everything and eliminated all these problems by now.

>

> Power unit is county specific.

> Antenna, you took like 2000 pcs from me, remember ?

>

> > makes your product very expensive and impossible to put out on a bigger

> > market to resellers so when we found this copy of the cardsplitter on a

> I understand. But it was a mistake from you to copy the HW + FW. If you continued with me, then

> we

> would have came together to same solution. And you would be clean today and no dark clouds was

> waiting on your head. You would have (as now) your brand OEM box with good slave B and dedicated

> new PCB master unit B, too. Price was also as low as possible, near to HW/production cost. But

> you

> cut me off in a bad way and you chose to copy and build your future on a stolen platform. You

> know

> yourself, this is stupid and you can not have a future. Currently your goods you sell as "Future

> Card Splitter" must be renamed to "Past Card Splitter". Don't mind my words, i like to write

> open

> minded, no filter or sanctions.

>

> You say China produce very cheap. I can produce more cheap than that. What qty did you order

> them

> ? 10 sets as you did with me per DHL box? LOL. Order me the qty you let make in China, and you

> will get cheaper and without hassles. Your problem was me, you wanted to eliminate me. And you

> talk about "everybody profit" everyone except me, i don't understand your point.

>

> > Chinese trading site we order one sample to start and we was very surprised

> Please, tell me the name/website/address of the Chinese company who did copy my HW. I will not

> consider cooperating with you if you do not tell me this. This is my only request. You got

> nothing

> to lose. Just be honest. I know you gave in order to copy the HW/FW. I'm not 2-years old to be

> fooled by your version.

>

> > The only thing that was no good was the firmware (a very early one) so we

> Which old FW (SWID) of mine did they have copied ?

> So, you load latest u30b before selling ? How do you want to make high qty sales if you lose

> time

> programming ? Isn't it better to cooperate with me ?

>

> > have to reprogram it before selling. The hardware is 200%. And the price we

> The HW is not 200%. Don't fool yourself. My latest slave B is 500% if so. Maybe the master has

> just better card slot and you could be right for the quality of master unit.

>

> > pay is very low so now we got the opportunity to make something out of this,

> Ok. Now you owe me an answer.

> Before i told you my HW/production cost. I was honest with you. Remember, when we was talking of

> high qty 4 months ago. Now tell me, what does it cost you, what is your HW/production cost ?

> What

> price do you give to dealer and reseller ?

>

>

> > because we will sell to Wholeseller, they sell to reseller and they sell to

> > end customers and everyone have to make money.

> Everyone to make money except me, the true owner ? Funny.

>

>

> > So you most understand our point of view. But we will offer you to join us.

> I see and i can say that you think too selfish.

> You have no remorse in what you did and you think that i will simply continue the development as

> a

> slave, as someone without dignity ?

>

> >

> > Our proposition to you looks like this.

> > We take care of the hardware fabrication and you the software developing.

>

> No, you know yourself this can't work. Only solution is that you get slaves from me.

>

> >

> > Best regards

> > Kenneth Henbo

> >

> >

 

 

 

 

 

> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:03:46 -0700 (PDT)

> From: cspro4 <cspro4@yahoo.com>

> Subject: Re: SV: [SPAM] Re: SV: Warning

> To: Teknikcompaniet <teknikcompaniet@bahnhof.se>

>

> Hello Kenneth Henbo,

>

> Email is the best, because you can take your time to write.

> I would suggest, it's not the type of communication channel, but the contents of our

> communication

> that matters now, which you did not start yet. I have already started and asked many questions.

>

> I want to tell you that Decibit / Germany is outraged and i try to keep them calm. Their next

> action will depend on my answer what we can now manage to fix, since until recently i was their

> best customer.

>

> I list you some facts:

>

> It's not true that a company in CN made similar one.

> It's 99% same, maybe 1% deviation. The SW is copied from (Decibit + me) of course.

> There is no chance to develop SW for it in such short time.

> Especially when the HW is 99% the same.

>

> I'm convinced, that it's you, who gave the order to them to do so.

>

> The slaves are copied totally without slightest change.

> Same situation with the master unit.




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Skrevet af: Business101
Skrevet den: 28-August-2008 kl. 13:39

> It was your dream to have boxed splitter in your own brand name.

>

> My price was not expensive, you only wanted to eliminate me.

> We, who can design themselves, we will still move on.

>

> Your action is true act of industrial piracy, with no respect for the law and other peoples

> investment and hard work.

>

> > > have been very fun to take over their market with CS instead.

> Sure no fun with me. The opposite.

>

> Can you tell me the Chinese company and person name who has copied all this my stuff ?

> I insist to know this. Please show goodwill and help me and i will help you back. I will

> appreciate it.

>

> Please start the conversation by commenting on any issue in this email.

> And/or start proposing your solution how we're going to cooperate.

> No need to waste time, as everybody can't stay calm already.

>

 

 

 

 

> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:16:45 -0700 (PDT)

> From: cspro4 <cspro4@yahoo.com>

> Subject: Re: SV: Warning

> To: Teknikcompaniet <teknikcompaniet@bahnhof.se>

>

> Hello,

>

> Thank you for the answer. Let's talk, talk and understand and resolve any issues.

>

> Please see in your text below...

>

>

> >

> > Dear sir,

> >

> > Sorry for the late answer, i found the mail you have sent in the trash

> > mail.

> You mean spam folder, i see, this happens often.

>

>

> > We are going to be very honest with you.

> > No, we have NOT copy your cardsplitter, we don’t have the knowledge to do

> > a

> > thing like that.

>

> I know, even i don't have any knowledge to do such thing myself. I can not copy, even if you

> give

> me 10 million USD. But using some criminal CN company, this could be done.

>

>

> > But we know that a company in China have done a similar version as yours,

> > but its not exactly the same as yours.

> Can you tell me website, brand name, photo ?

>

> There is many CN made splitters lately.

>

>

> > So we have just started to buy from them, because the price is better and

> > it’s a complete set that is possible to introduce to big resellers.

>

> The prices i gave you was almost at our HW cost. When you ordered 10 sets before, we sent with

> DHL, we made only 150 USD profit from it! When you get from CN, do they pay DHL cost for you ?

> No!

>

> As you claim so, and you made long time business with me, and i appreciated your business very

> much, can you tell me what price you buy from them ? Can you show me a photo of that product?

> Else

> i can get one myself from market and analyze.

>

> I saw from your pictures to be found on your website, that you produced slave PCB, exactly as

> my,

> exact copy of tracks, but double sided ISO contact! What do you say about this ?

> And the module looks like from Decibit, or maybe not, because where do you get the software ?

>

> Why would you produce copy slave PCB if you have no programmed Decibit modules to use with?

> Why would you need double ISO contact. BTW, this is bad idea, we made this already. When used in

> CAM module, you get short circuit, and you need to tape one side. So, it's bad idea to make

> double

> sided ISO. You think i'm stupid not to do so, i have experience, that's why i don't do it.

>

> You started marketing to Greece, and the box show my CSPRO-64 master. If you claim to sell CN

> made

> product, why is photo on box looking exact same as mine ?

>

> If CN copied Atmel chip, we will make noise and find out the source who made it. This is very

> big

> issue. Because Atmel's stock price will drop down at the end. Copying/busting Atmel IC's is not

> heard of until now.

>

>

>

> >

> > VERY IMPORTANT!

> > We know that the cardsplitter is nothing without you, so we need you to be

> > included in this business if we want to sell to the big companys.

>

> We already talked about this. You never talked back. You kept quiet.

> I made the new slave B ready and you dropped me like a hot potato ?

> I did my utmost to come towards you and you're looking elsewhere...

>

>

> > We have been in contact with many big stores who want to buy the

> > cardsplitter.

> > Its not our intension to fight with you.

> > If we should continue to sell cardsplitter, we need to work with you.

> > We don’t want to have problems, we hope that you understand that!

>

> Please lay open your cards. Your answer should satisfy and clarify the action that was going on

> lately.

>

> - I gave units at lowest cost, at HW cost almost, no real profit for me.

> - We sent free by DHL, no costs for you.

> - Repaired/Exchanged units for free and thrown away the damaged units/modules which are very

> expensive.

> - Always tried to improve the product, made new B slaves.

> - We invested in stock, thinking you would continue with your suggestion to mass sell, with box

> and your OEM brand.

> - But what happend ? All this goodwill was not appreciated by you. For just little (or not ?)

> price difference you go support some CN made product or maybe they copied full and i would be

> totally eliminated, and all my work's benefit would go to you. But do you really want to

> eliminate

> me, make modules yourself, invest in stock, program, test, with uncertain future without SW

> updates ? This is very hard pill, i could never swallow.

>

> On your part:

> - You don't order since 3 months.

> - You sell boxed sets and start contacting everyone worldwide, including my dealers.

> - double side ISO slaves

> - still same pictures as CSPRO-64

> - drop cable type CSPRO-4/8

> - no communication with me, no information exchange

> - => suspicious behaviour

>

> > Hope  that we can come to a solution together so we can start make big

> > business, because it have very big potential and we have a lot of ideas to

> > make good money for all of us.

>

> Watch out for Tele-Satellite 06-07/2008, a 3-page nice award winning report is coming.

>

> You're business man. You know we don't need to be too cheap. Depends on marketing. If you're

> more

> near to customers, they will buy from you. It's not matter of price, it's matter of if you're

> near

> to them.

>

> >

> > We have found out that Chinease companys have copy the Smart-wi and it

> > would

> > have been very fun to take over their market with CS instead.

>

> I repeat. I have no remorse for SmartWi. Because they copied the wording of my website and still

> use it as such! SmartWi got wireless idea from me, since i made 5 years ago the wireless extension

> for CSPRO-4/-8/-16 v2. The worlds first wireless cardsplitter! But it

> was hard to use by enduser, because it was only an extension for cable type CSPRO.

> >

> > Please tell us what you think about this, we are ready to cooperate with

> > you!

> >

> > Best regards

> >

> > PS! We don’t run the site Teknikcompaniet anymore!

>

> What is your website then ? Futurino ?

>

>

> >

> > -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----

> > Från: v3@cardsplitter.com [mailto:v3@cardsplitter.com]

> > Skickat: den 22 april 2008 02:17

> > Till: teknikcompaniet@bahnhof.se

> > Kopia: cspro4@yahoo.com

> > Ämne: Warning

> >

> > I need you to answer to me.

> >

> > Because if you do not answer, then you confirm that you did copy Decibit

> > modules in HW and in SW.

> >

> > If this is the case, then you're in big trouble. Decibit is based in

> > Germany and their attorney will contact you. Since you're also in Europe,

> > this will not be good for your company and you at all.

> >

> > To avoid this, i need you to answer to me and clarify your position.

> >

> >

> > +++++++++

> >

> >

> > I need an urgent answer from you.

> >

> >

> > +++++++++

> >

> >

> > You have to be honest with me.

> >

> > Why don't you order anymore ?

> >

> > I see that you realized your ambitions to have product with box and

> > everything. This is nice and good.

> >

> > But where do you get the units ? Did you copy my product ?

> >

> > Just be honest and please answer to me.

> >

> >

> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++

> >

> >

> > Please use these email addresses for now:

> >

> > cardsplitter@hotmail.com

> > cspro4@yahoo.com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >



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Skrevet af: Business101
Skrevet den: 28-August-2008 kl. 13:42

 

 

-------- Original Message --------

Subject:                 Teknikcompaniet

Date:                      Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:38:41 +0100

From:                     Teknikcompaniet <teknikcompaniet@bahnhof.se>

To:                           <v3@cardsplitter.com>

 

 

Dear sir,

 

 

 

We have BIG European companys that want to be reseller of the cspro-64 cardsplitters, so I know that we can sell around 1000sets or more every month, but the problem today is that we cant be the wholeseller because the price from you is to high!

 

Just to give you one example we have contact with Philips in Sweden that want to buy big quantitys from us!

 

We will import everything from you and test it, then we will buy power adaptors, antennas and cardboard boxes with picture and text and then send to them.

 

The guaranties we also take care of together with you!

 

So, for this to be possible we can offer you 60usd/set, and we will order minimum 250sets but hopefully 500-1000sets every time!

 

I think that you can manage this with the new slaves that you don’t have to solder by hand.

 

Please concider this and we can make a lot of money together, and we are ready to start today!

 

And another good thing is that we can compete with the smart wi =).

 

 

 

Looking forward to hear from you

 

 

 

Titta gärna in på våran internet shop som har den senaste tekniken från Asien med garanterat bra priser.      www.teknikcompaniet.se

 

 

 

Med vänlig hälsning

 

Teknikcompaniet

 

 



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Skrevet af: niepe
Skrevet den: 28-August-2008 kl. 13:48

HVAD går der lige galt for manden? Jeg har dog ikke læst det hele men sikke da et svin...

+ hvad sker der lige for hans homepage? Ikke engang det virker..

niepe



Skrevet af: Bjur
Skrevet den: 28-August-2008 kl. 14:18
Oprindeligt skrevet af humperdink humperdink skrev:

Så STORT er mit hus nu heller ikke  - de 4 af kortene sidder i Media Center TV tunere - de 2 resterende sidder i 2 TV. - alt sammen inden for få kvadrameter - men jeg kan nok godt komme 10 meter væk, hvis jeg går på 1. salen.

Mht. stabilitet, så har jeg oplevet en del udfald de sidste par dage!!! Jeg har mit trådløse netværk mistænkt for at drille, men jeg er ikke sikker.


Jeg går ikke udfra du evt. kan deaktivere det trådløse et par dage, eller skifte frekvens, for at se om det giver mere stabilitet?

I må begge meget gerne melde tilbage i løbet af et par dage mht. stabilitet.

Gider ikke købe katten i sækken.

Men billedkvaliteten er vel ligeså skarpt som hvis man udelukkende bruger Yousee kort, da det er digitalt og den vel kun sender koder ud?


Skrevet af: humperdink
Skrevet den: 28-August-2008 kl. 14:23

Jeg vil bruge lidt tid på at eksperimenere de næste dage. Jeg vender tilbage når jeg har fundet løsningen.

Billedkvaliteten er på ingen måder påvirket af udstyret, da det som du skriver kun er et spørgsmål om at udveksle koder.



Skrevet af: Delphi
Skrevet den: 29-August-2008 kl. 16:11

Nogen der har erfaringer med stofa (Irdeto kryptering)

Både med de gamle kort (Det digitale spejl) og de nye Zaptor kort.

Vil bruge det med FireDTV.



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Skrevet af: Bjur
Skrevet den: 31-August-2008 kl. 11:40
Har i oplevet flere udfald???


Skrevet af: Peoke
Skrevet den: 31-August-2008 kl. 12:36
Jeg står selv og skal købe. Hvad er det som er galt med smartwi?

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Skrevet af: humperdink
Skrevet den: 01-September-2008 kl. 07:58

Oprindeligt skrevet af Bjur Bjur skrev:

Har i oplevet flere udfald???

Jeg må desværre konstatere at stabiliteten ikke er blevet bedre hjemme hos mig , men det er muligvis et lokalt problem hos mig, men indtil videre har jeg ikke kunne lokaliseret problemet.

Kan muligvis være mit eget og andres trådløse netværk, der "støjer" på samme frekvens.

 



Skrevet af: humperdink
Skrevet den: 01-September-2008 kl. 22:05

Kilden til ustabiliteten er fundet og mistanken om mit trådløse netværks indblanding er blevet bekræftet. Ved kopiering af en større fil over det trådløse netværk faldt cardsplitter kortet i min Samsung SMT-H3106 ud efter få sekunder. Efter afbrydelse af kopieringen kunne jeg få cardsplitter kortene til at fungere igen. For at være helt sikker gentog jeg kopieringen af filen og samme hændelsesforløb gentog sig.

Jeg har prøvet at skifte kanal på min D-Link DIR-655 router, men det har ikke hjulpet.

Om man så kan konkludere at man ikke kan benytte Future Wireless cardsplitter sættet, hvis man har trådløst netværk kan jeg ikke være sikker på, men i hvertfald er der meget andet trafik på 2,4 GHz båndet som kan være med til at forstyrre trafikken mellem masterenhed og pseudokortene.



Skrevet af: bantam
Skrevet den: 01-September-2008 kl. 23:38

Prøv at forbinde enhederne med et splittet coax-kabel, og se om det ikke løser problemet (selvom det jo giver dig en ny udfordring med at trække kabler)...

 



Skrevet af: Bjur
Skrevet den: 02-September-2008 kl. 08:35
Oprindeligt skrevet af humperdink humperdink skrev:

Kilden til ustabiliteten er fundet og mistanken om mit trådløse netværks indblanding er blevet bekræftet. Ved kopiering af en større fil over det trådløse netværk faldt cardsplitter kortet i min Samsung SMT-H3106 ud efter få sekunder. Efter afbrydelse af kopieringen kunne jeg få cardsplitter kortene til at fungere igen. For at være helt sikker gentog jeg kopieringen af filen og samme hændelsesforløb gentog sig.

Jeg har prøvet at skifte kanal på min D-Link DIR-655 router, men det har ikke hjulpet.

Om man så kan konkludere at man ikke kan benytte Future Wireless cardsplitter sættet, hvis man har trådløst netværk kan jeg ikke være sikker på, men i hvertfald er der meget andet trafik på 2,4 GHz båndet som kan være med til at forstyrre trafikken mellem masterenhed og pseudokortene.



Hmm skidt:( Bruger mit trådløse meget.
Mon så også det samme er tilfældet ved at benytte smartwii?


Skrevet af: ttppeewee
Skrevet den: 09-November-2008 kl. 13:04
Er der nyt i sagen? og kan man ikke forbinde kortene via kabler i stedet for trådløs? JEg overvejer nemlig at skige mine analo kort ud med digital, men synes det er lidt dyrt at betale 800kr i kort afgift hvert år


Skrevet af: humperdink
Skrevet den: 09-November-2008 kl. 13:39

Oprindeligt skrevet af ttppeewee ttppeewee skrev:

Er der nyt i sagen? og kan man ikke forbinde kortene via kabler i stedet for trådløs? JEg overvejer nemlig at skige mine analo kort ud med digital, men synes det er lidt dyrt at betale 800kr i kort afgift hvert år

Jo - det kan man faktisk, men jeg nåede at bestille et nyt kabelforbundet cardsplittersæt inden jeg opdagede det.

Jeg har bestilt dette sæt:
http://www.tradlost.se/shop/catalog_en/Cardsplitter%20tr%E5dburen%208%20klienter-p-16532.html - http://www.tradlost.se/shop/catalog_en/Cardsplitter%20tr%E5d buren%208%20klienter-p-16532.html  - men har endnu ikke modtaget det ... har været længe undervejs. Håber det lander en af dagene.

... men kunne nok have nøjes med at købe nogle stykker af disse kabler til mit Future Wireless Cardsplitter:
http://www.tradlost.se/shop/catalog_en/Kabel%20till%20Future%20cardsplitter%20klientkort%201%20m-p-16319.html - http://www.tradlost.se/shop/catalog_en/Kabel%20till%20Future %20cardsplitter%20klientkort%201%20m-p-16319.html

Se hvordan det forbindes her: http://futureino.se/pdf/mottagningsproblem.pdf - http://futureino.se/pdf/mottagningsproblem.pdf
Det er faktisk ret genialt - for så benytter man bare sine eksisterende antennekabler i huset til at transportere trafikken mellem enhederne.

Se alle cardsplittere fra http://www.tradlost.se - www.tradlost.se her:
http://www.tradlost.se/shop/catalog_en/Cardsplitter-orderby0-p-1-c-281.html - http://www.tradlost.se/shop/catalog_en/Cardsplitter-orderby0 -p-1-c-281.html

Det interessante er så faktisk at jeg har haft mit Future Wireless Cardsplitter sæt til at køre helt problemfrit på 2 enheder i den sidste måneds tid helt uden problemer. Er overbevist om at det hænger sammen med at jeg har skiftet min trådløse router cirka på samme tidspunkt. Den generer åbenbart ikke på samme frekvens som cardsplitteren benytter.

Så hvis der er nogen, der er interesseret har jeg et sæt Future Wireless Cardsplitter til salg : http://www.recordere.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=48855&PN=9 -
http://www.recordere.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=48855& PN=9



Skrevet af: ttppeewee
Skrevet den: 09-November-2008 kl. 14:00
Oprindeligt skrevet af humperdink humperdink skrev:

Oprindeligt skrevet af ttppeewee ttppeewee skrev:

Er der nyt i sagen? og kan man ikke forbinde kortene via kabler i stedet for trådløs? JEg overvejer nemlig at skige mine analo kort ud med digital, men synes det er lidt dyrt at betale 800kr i kort afgift hvert år

Jo - det kan man faktisk, men jeg nåede at bestille et nyt kabelforbundet cardsplittersæt inden jeg opdagede det.

Jeg har bestilt dette sæt:
http://www.tradlost.se/shop/catalog_en/Cardsplitter%20tr%E5dburen%208%20klienter-p-16532.html - http://www.tradlost.se/shop/catalog_en/Cardsplitter%20tr%E5d buren%208%20klienter-p-16532.html  - men har endnu ikke modtaget det ... har været længe undervejs. Håber det lander en af dagene.

... men kunne nok have nøjes med at købe nogle stykker af disse kabler til mit Future Wireless Cardsplitter:
http://www.tradlost.se/shop/catalog_en/Kabel%20till%20Future%20cardsplitter%20klientkort%201%20m-p-16319.html - http://www.tradlost.se/shop/catalog_en/Kabel%20till%20Future %20cardsplitter%20klientkort%201%20m-p-16319.html

Se hvordan det forbindes her: http://futureino.se/pdf/mottagningsproblem.pdf - http://futureino.se/pdf/mottagningsproblem.pdf
Det er faktisk ret genialt - for så benytter man bare sine eksisterende antennekabler i huset til at transportere trafikken mellem enhederne.

Se alle cardsplittere fra http://www.tradlost.se - www.tradlost.se her:
http://www.tradlost.se/shop/catalog_en/Cardsplitter-orderby0-p-1-c-281.html - http://www.tradlost.se/shop/catalog_en/Cardsplitter-orderby0 -p-1-c-281.html

Det interessante er så faktisk at jeg har haft mit Future Wireless Cardsplitter sæt til at køre helt problemfrit på 2 enheder i den sidste måneds tid helt uden problemer. Er overbevist om at det hænger sammen med at jeg har skiftet min trådløse router cirka på samme tidspunkt. Den generer åbenbart ikke på samme frekvens som cardsplitteren benytter.

Så hvis der er nogen, der er interesseret har jeg et sæt Future Wireless Cardsplitter til salg : http://www.recordere.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=48855&PN=9 -
http://www.recordere.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=48855& PN=9



Hvis jeg forstår ovenstående rigtig, så behøber jeg ikke at overføre signalt via trådløs, men kan bare forbinde boksen med kortet til de to kort i min HTPC. Men hvordan spilter jeg hovedboksen op i to? Jeg bruger ikke vægstik som vist på brugsanvisningen. Kunne muligvis være interesseret i dit sæt


Skrevet af: humperdink
Skrevet den: 09-November-2008 kl. 14:14
Jeg vil tro at du vil kunne forbinde sættene direkte ved køb af af de specielle  http://www.tradlost.se/shop/catalog_en/Kabel%20till%20Future %20cardsplitter%20klientkort%201%20m-p-16319.html - ledninger og sætte det sammen med en almindelig http://www.tradlost.se/shop/catalog_sv/Antennf%F6rgrening%2C%209.5mm%201%20ho%20till%202%20ha%2C%20guldpl%E4terad-p-16416.html - kabelsplitter .


Skrevet af: humperdink
Skrevet den: 12-December-2008 kl. 12:57

Jeg har netop returneret min nyindkøbte cardsplitter ( http://www.tradlost.se/shop/catalog_en/Cardsplitter%20tr%E5dburen%208%20klienter-p-16532.html  - http://www.tradlost.se/shop/catalog_en/Cardsplitter%20tr%E5d buren%208%20klienter-p-16532.html)  ... det virker ikke med YouSee kort.

Fik endda forhandleren til at sende mig en ekstra master enhed for at se om der var en defekt i den første jeg fik tilsendt.

Men nu har jeg bestilt kablerne, der kan gøre mit Future Wireless Cardsplitter sæt kablet... så cardsplitter farcen fortsætter.



Skrevet af: humperdink
Skrevet den: 12-December-2008 kl. 13:01
Oprindeligt skrevet af Bjur Bjur skrev:

Oprindeligt skrevet af humperdink humperdink skrev:

Kilden til ustabiliteten er fundet og mistanken om mit trådløse netværks indblanding er blevet bekræftet. Ved kopiering af en større fil over det trådløse netværk faldt cardsplitter kortet i min Samsung SMT-H3106 ud efter få sekunder. Efter afbrydelse af kopieringen kunne jeg få cardsplitter kortene til at fungere igen. For at være helt sikker gentog jeg kopieringen af filen og samme hændelsesforløb gentog sig.

Jeg har prøvet at skifte kanal på min D-Link DIR-655 router, men det har ikke hjulpet.

Om man så kan konkludere at man ikke kan benytte Future Wireless cardsplitter sættet, hvis man har trådløst netværk kan jeg ikke være sikker på, men i hvertfald er der meget andet trafik på 2,4 GHz båndet som kan være med til at forstyrre trafikken mellem masterenhed og pseudokortene.



Hmm skidt:( Bruger mit trådløse meget.
Mon så også det samme er tilfældet ved at benytte smartwii?

Jeg har faktisk ingen udfald længere ... jeg har skiftet min router ud til en D-Link DIR-855 og den er mere "Neighbour Friendly" - og den forstyrrer ikke min cardsplitter - så det kører faktisk temmeligt stabilt med Future Wireless Cardsplitteren for øjeblikket.



Skrevet af: LarsenLP
Skrevet den: 29-December-2008 kl. 21:22

Fik du forbundet dine Future Wireless cardsplittere med et kabel?

Jeg har selv luret på løsningen, men har ikke megen fidus til det trådløse :-)



Skrevet af: humperdink
Skrevet den: 30-December-2008 kl. 00:15

Ja - jeg har købt diverse ledninger og prøvet at forbinde mine tunere på den måde i stedet... men det fungerer ikke for 25 øre bedre end at køre trådløst.



Skrevet af: LarsenLP
Skrevet den: 30-December-2008 kl. 08:30
Oprindeligt skrevet af humperdink humperdink skrev:

Ja - jeg har købt diverse ledninger og prøvet at forbinde mine tunere på den måde i stedet... men det fungerer ikke for 25 øre bedre end at køre trådløst.

Er det så godt eller skidt :-)

Så vidt jeg kan se i de tidligere posts, virkede det godt trådløst, efter du skiftede router.

Vil du sige, at det kører ligeså godt, som hvis du havde smartcards direkte i tunerne, eller er der en eller anden grad af udfald, som man bare må acceptere? Og/eller langsommere kanalskift?



Skrevet af: Henrik_45
Skrevet den: 30-December-2008 kl. 10:49

Jeg havde også en del problemer med mit købte SmartWi sæt, men efter at jeg fik opdateret Firmwaren fungerede det som smurt i olie.

Jeg har ikke længere problem med langsommere kanalskift end hvis jeg havde programkortet direkte i TV't.

Se mere i denne tråd.

http://www.recordere.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47618&KW=smartwi - http://www.recordere.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47618& KW=smartwi



Skrevet af: Business101
Skrevet den: 03-Maj-2009 kl. 20:52
Oprindeligt skrevet af humperdink humperdink skrev:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Bjur Bjur skrev:

Oprindeligt skrevet af humperdink humperdink skrev:

Kilden til ustabiliteten er fundet og mistanken om mit trådløse netværks indblanding er blevet bekræftet. Ved kopiering af en større fil over det trådløse netværk faldt cardsplitter kortet i min Samsung SMT-H3106 ud efter få sekunder. Efter afbrydelse af kopieringen kunne jeg få cardsplitter kortene til at fungere igen. For at være helt sikker gentog jeg kopieringen af filen og samme hændelsesforløb gentog sig.

Jeg har prøvet at skifte kanal på min D-Link DIR-655 router, men det har ikke hjulpet.

Om man så kan konkludere at man ikke kan benytte Future Wireless cardsplitter sættet, hvis man har trådløst netværk kan jeg ikke være sikker på, men i hvertfald er der meget andet trafik på 2,4 GHz båndet som kan være med til at forstyrre trafikken mellem masterenhed og pseudokortene.



Hmm skidt:( Bruger mit trådløse meget.
Mon så også det samme er tilfældet ved at benytte smartwii?

Jeg har faktisk ingen udfald længere ... jeg har skiftet min router ud til en D-Link DIR-855 og den er mere "Neighbour Friendly" - og den forstyrrer ikke min cardsplitter - så det kører faktisk temmeligt stabilt med Future Wireless Cardsplitteren for øjeblikket.



hej humperdink

virker din cardsplitter stadig på din samsung SMT-H3106?

har købt et sæt til mine forældre og der viser den smartcard error hele tiden

håber du kan hjælpe




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Skrevet af: bruger udmeldt 5
Skrevet den: 03-Maj-2009 kl. 23:34

I tror ikke Doulabs Diablo cam er et alternativ?

Koster vist €116 pr. stk.. så lidt dyr, men så er det også ægte wireless informationen sendes med.

 



Skrevet af: Business101
Skrevet den: 04-Maj-2009 kl. 06:54
selve cardsplitteren virker fint, har sluttet der til et samsung lcd med indbygget dvb-c tuner.

har måske samsung 3106 mistænkt for ikke at kunne levere strøm nok til  det trådløse kort.

Jeg skulle måske prøve et at de kort med ekstern strømforsyning, eller se om det er muligt at lodde cabel på og så tilslutte det til usb stikket bagpå samsung 3106.



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Panasonic TH-42PX70EA, Onkyo TX-SR605, KEF KHT5005.1

KEF KHT2005.2

Dreambox dm500-s, Popcorn Hour

Windows Home Server

SB3 og Squeezebox Duet







Skrevet af: humperdink
Skrevet den: 04-Maj-2009 kl. 07:21

Mine Future Wireless client kort fungerer fint i både Samsung SMT-H3106 & SMT-H3126 - så herfra ingen problemer med strømmangel til kortene.

Jeg er dog stadig ikke helt kommet over udfald i signalet - det sker nok 1 gang i ugen at jeg blier nødt til at trække kortet ud af STB'en og sætte det i igen.



Skrevet af: Business101
Skrevet den: 05-Maj-2009 kl. 15:23

Oprindeligt skrevet af humperdink humperdink skrev:

Mine Future Wireless client kort fungerer fint i både Samsung SMT-H3106 & SMT-H3126 - så herfra ingen problemer med strømmangel til kortene.

Jeg er dog stadig ikke helt kommet over udfald i signalet - det sker nok 1 gang i ugen at jeg blier nødt til at trække kortet ud af STB'en og sætte det i igen.



dvs at det kørte fuldstændigt plug and play for dig.... altså efter du fik skiftet router 

kan jeg lokke dig til at tjekke din hardware og software version på samsung 3106?

hvilket af disse sæt er det du har købt?
http://www.futureino.com - http://www.futureino.com
http://www.card-splitter.dk - http://www.card-splitter.dk

det er den sidste jeg har købt, da future skulle være en kopi af en gammel software til cs-pro64 der ikke bliver videreudviklet på.


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Panasonic TH-42PX70EA, Onkyo TX-SR605, KEF KHT5005.1

KEF KHT2005.2

Dreambox dm500-s, Popcorn Hour

Windows Home Server

SB3 og Squeezebox Duet







Skrevet af: Business101
Skrevet den: 12-Maj-2009 kl. 16:28
Har nu søgt hjælp ved udvikleren og importøren af cardsplitteren.

håber de kan komme med en løsning på problemet.

har desværre en mistanke om at problemet er at Samsung SMT-H3106 ikke kan levere strøm nok til det trådløse kort .

alternativet kan være at bruge et af de højeffektive kort med ekstern strømforsyning

ellers må sættet retur


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Panasonic TH-42PX70EA, Onkyo TX-SR605, KEF KHT5005.1

KEF KHT2005.2

Dreambox dm500-s, Popcorn Hour

Windows Home Server

SB3 og Squeezebox Duet







Skrevet af: HTPC
Skrevet den: 12-Oktober-2009 kl. 20:17

Er der nogen der ved om kortsplitterene SmartWi, CardSplitter og Future og hvad de ellers måttte hedde virker til Boxer?

Så vidt jeg ved anvender Boxer i DK "Viaccess 3", og SmartWi og CarSplitter lister kun Viaccess 1&2 som supporteret, så er i tvivl om splitterne også virker til Boxer.



Skrevet af: business10101
Skrevet den: 13-Oktober-2009 kl. 07:39
jeg har et sæt cardsplitter i skuffen hvis der er nogen i midtjylland jeg kan teste ved.



Skrevet af: laursen
Skrevet den: 17-Oktober-2009 kl. 12:27
Hej HTPC,

Oprindeligt skrevet af HTPC HTPC skrev:

Er der nogen der ved om kortsplitterene SmartWi, CardSplitter og Future og hvad de ellers måttte hedde virker til Boxer?

Så vidt jeg ved anvender Boxer i DK "Viaccess 3", og SmartWi og CarSplitter lister kun Viaccess 1&2 som supporteret, så er i tvivl om splitterne også virker til Boxer.

Ifølge http://www.parabolspecialist.dk/shop/smartwi-kortsplitter-1343p.html - Parabol Specialist skulle Smartwi fungere med både Sagem ITD84 boxen og Dilog CA modulet til Boxer.

Jeg er dog mere interesseret i http://www.teknikimporten.se/?artnr=81001 - CSPRO-64 pga. den længere afstand mellem sender og modtager (100m mod Smartwi's 15m). Dog ved jeg ikke om CSPRO virker med Boxer - eller om udviklingen af CSPRO helt er stoppet efter at der er faldtet dom mod markedsføringen af denne slags produkter i Sverige (f.eks. http://www.tradlost.se/shop/catalog_sv/Cardsplitter-orderby0-p-1-c-281.html - Trådlöst.se har helt stoppet salget af CSPRO - og fjernet mange af deres informations-sider om produktet).

Er der iøvrigt nogle der ved om nogle af card-splitter produkterne fungerer med Viasat (det skulle de ifølge parabol specialist ikke gøre - antageligt pga. parringen mellem kort og modtager).

/Lars


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