Future Wireless Kort Splitterpå siden www.cardsplitter.com
Ok, i will
comment the TRUTH in between the text of this translation.
>
> Effren,
> this is
what Future wrote as an answer in their forum when a member
> claimed
that they had copied the cardsplitter. Following has been
>
translated from Swedish to English with Google translation tool so it is
> not a
perfect translation.
______________
>
www.cardsplitter.com is original, but the older version. This page is
It's the
original. Not older version. The SW, you guys copied by chip
busting,
paying some Chinese company. You have the older SW, as you can
not develop
anything. The HW is copied 1:1 (again using some shit ass
Chinese or
else reverse engineering team), what idiots you all are. You
have not
developed anything. You're zeros. You only made a carton box,
with your
fake, lie, brand name, you made a user manual yourself. That's
all. HW SW
development was done entirely 1-2 years before (!) you got
involved
selling CSPRO-64's. You only sent few receivers over to adapt
timing! LOL.
All was there already. Your contribution is 0.1%, jackass.
> owned
by our former partner in Thailand which we have been through and
Not a
partner, you imbecile! You was a dealer, a customer. You would hump
your pet
backwards if you had the chance to do so. Partner with you ? God
beware.
>
developed the product with for several years.
I developed
it during 3 years. You bought it as Swedish dealer and sent
few receiver
to adapt timing. What did you develop, writing the user
manual ?
You're real genius, mate!
> The
problem has been the low quality of electronics, and after that we
This is
developing phases of a product. At beginning the modules had to be
soldered on
slave PCB's by hand, as there was no single unit slave PCB
design at
that time.
>
marketed it under 2 years in Sweden with 100 heard hours of
Shut up. See
the proof, i have published your order history. You ordered
exact 1 year
only and thus your marketing in Sweden was for 1 year.
>
troubleshooting ropes etc so we could not continue cooperation with him.
Why don't
you tell about the superb support you received ?
> We
could not get involved with black business, which is the only thing
> that is
intesant of our former partner.
Hey former
dealer, shut up with the lies. You need a brain surgery to get
away from
lying. It's in your DNA, nobody can help you. These persons are
liars all
over. We're around since a decade, you're there just since March
of this year
2008. Who is doing black business, by hijacking other persons
development
and work?
> The
software, we have org and will mpg4 implamentering from it during
> the
autumn and it is one thing that will never be resolved by our former
>
employees in Thailand.
Now we're
employees ? LOL. Your mouth must be stinking. You're a person
from hell,
dear former dealer, former customer from Sweden!
> He
feels run over and bitter but I can guarantee we offered very good
Idiot, first
copy the HW 1:1 together with busting the chips to rob the
software,
then offer partnership... To hell with you.
> conditions
but have been rejected several times. In the end, we saw no
You still
don't understand why ? With such low character people as you are
there is no
way to do any business. This headache is the result. I offered
you to
correct your criminal act to prevent all this, you refused.
>
alternative but to run our own Race. We have put a great deal of time
> and
money on development, which he has not done. And it is we who made
Trashcans
stink, as do lies. Lie, lie, lie. You invested nothing, no
money, no
brain, no time. You talk about your investment to hijack and
then produce
the copy product HW. That's it.
> the
Future cardsplitter have a good and gedigert goods brand and
>
guarantee of good quality.
Total the
opposite. It's rotten filthy brand, a copy, a robbery, a
criminal
entity.
> We are
rock hard with the standards of quality control as our former
Not you, you
idiot, you produce in China, that company has it's standard
in
production. You do nothing, but to sit on your fat ass and think how to
create more
lies.
>
employees are not. Wait and see what judgement to the unlikely bought a
Shut up
already! You're former dealer for Sweden.
> cs
pro64 (handlöd in thailand) We take no responsibility for these
Idiot, you
talk about 2 years back. I've already explained. It's it's
looks at a
certain earlier development period. You sold only of the type
that you
describe during your 1 year dealership. Why did you sell those if
those were
so bad ?
>
products.
> We keep
a straight and honest profile against him despite the person's
You got
nothing bad to talk about me, as i didn't damage you! That's why.
> name
attacks publishing, etc., in the edited mail conversations etc,
Did you ask
yourself why ? Because you know how disgusting your act is. I
do the right
thing to make the truth get public.
> which
never took place. The sole purpose has been to miss credit to us
Of course
they took place, idiot! You can denounce them how much you want.
There is no
smoke without fire!
> and
nothing else.
> We are
and will continue each developer of Future cardsplitter than what
You're only
a fat ass sitting on it, no clues about developing HW or SW.
Lie more
until you die.
> is
printed on a bitter former co-worker's website in Thailand.
Idiot, not a
co-worker. The original product's website.
http://www.cardsplitter.com
which is around since 9 years.
> I hope
that this speech to clarify how it is.
Yes, it
clarify how much character you lack.
Efren
CardSplitter
> Kenneth
/ Jonny
> Future
"Imitation" Europe
>
I have
corrected your company name to tell the truth. Even your company
name is
filled with lies.
+++++++++++++
They copied
CSPRO-64 B+BBB.
CSPRO-64 was
developed by CardsSplitter.com from beginning of 2006 onwards.
They can not
develop and upgrade Firmware. The codes are too complex to do so.
A product
without future support!
They have
copied metal casing design, PCB designs, modules and the codes 1:1.
They lied to
you and fake you by telling that they have their own product.
Such people
would rob a bank if they had a chance and feel no remorse doing so.
Nobody wants
to make business with a liar, a robber and a criminal.
Namely: a
parasite.
If you still
do, after you know all these facts, then you're no different to them.
Why didn't
they develop their own goddamn product ? Fair competition is welcome.
They were
succesful copying on February 2008, after which orders seized.
A friend of
mine describes his thougths like this:
"that
ash*le made you so busy for more than a year to
make HW,
upgrade SW and make it great and bug free,
the way he
want to get things here!??
and all the
time he was getting good price i'm sure,
as you think
he was fighting competition.
they are
strangers who stole our ideas, he betrade
your
confidence and trust!
i don't
believe how a human can be so evil!
who is
behind this is an animal sure, we can't say
human, no
way!"
I'm not the
dealer; we're CardSplitter, the true owner, developer and manufacturer.
That what
you get in these blue boxes is a full copy and a scam. I was very shocked, too,
how they
could pull off such thing.
They was
just a dealer for Sweden, now he want's to be me, and take over the world with
this copy!!!!!!
Can you
imagine the criminal mind he has?
Can you help
me to spread this email to other affected dealer and whole seller in Sweden,
Denmark who don't
know that
they're in a deep scam by Teknikcompaniet/Futureino ? And dealing with a
product without future
and with no
more code updates ?
See 2 years
old photo here and his slave, how funny they copied real 1:1...
http://cardsplitter.com/v3_slab0.jpg
They don't
have A+AAA or C+CCC, they copied only B+BBB !!!! They don't have any cable type
splitter CSPRO-4/CSPRO-8 and CSPRO-16, not to talk of CSPRO Light CSL-5/-6.
Below last
emails and full order history, FYI.
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> Date:
Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:19:50 -0700 (PDT)
> From:
cspro4 <cspro4@yahoo.com>
>
Subject: Re: About the copy of the cs
> To:
Kenneth H <kennethhenbo@hotmail.com>
>
> See in
your text below:
>
> ---
Kenneth H <kennethhenbo@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
This is the cable ver.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.bluetvsat.com/product/shareservsplitter/seca%20ca rd%20splitter.htm
> >
>
> Stop
kidding me. I know this crap long ago. It's only SECA. Nothing special with it,
just
> cheap
price.
>
>
> >
> >
The wirless are out there some where to. Its only to searth its not so hard to
find.
>
> Really
? Why don't you show me ?
> Yes,
only on your websites.. :-(
>
>
> >
> >
Its out on 2 Asian selling websites.
> >
>
> Where ?
> Or is
this a quiz ?
>
> >
> > We
dont like that you acuse us to copy ...
In China they do what ever. We have a good contact
>
> Tell me
who copied my product ? China address, website, name.
> Why do
you protect them ? Why do you hide their identity ?
>
>
> >
now with the factory that make it and a very very very good price to. Now we
can sell it to
> >
distributers
>
>
> I sell
it for 44 EUR. What is your price ?
>
>
> >
> >
.We dont sell at all to end costumers any more.
>
> You
better keep end customer sales. I will make your resellers know of your act.
They will buy
> the
>
original from me, at cheap price, cheaper than your price. I mean it, if you
give them @ 30 EUR,
> i
> will
give them at 25 EUR. Hope you understand.
>
> You're
businessman. I offer to you 5 EUR cheaper than you get from China factory ?
Will you buy
> from me
? For a complete set in a box.
>
>
>
> >
> >
Regards
> >
Jonny/Peter/Kenneth.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Date:
Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:01:04 -0700 (PDT)
> From:
cspro4 <cspro4@yahoo.com>
>
Subject: Re: SV: [SPAM] Re: SV: [SPAM] Re: SV: Warning
> To:
Teknikcompaniet <teknikcompaniet@bahnhof.se>
>
> Pls see
in your text...
>
>
> ---
Teknikcompaniet <teknikcompaniet@bahnhof.se> wrote:
>
> >
Hello,
> >
> >
What we want to do in this situation and how we think of a future
> >
cooperation between us.
> > We
want to ask you to join us as a partner. We know that together we can we
> >
can be unbeatable in this, both the development of the hardware and you in
> >
software not only in small scale.
>
> Do not
downgrade me to look like SW developer only. This is only small portion of me.
>
>
> > We
have the attention to make the cardsplitter or as we like to call it
> >
(DigitalTv Smartcard Devider) to an entertainment device that should be in
> >
every home in the whole Europe.
> What is
the invention here ? Only a fancy name on top of a copied hardware/firmware of
mine ?
>
> >
The cardsplitter you make are no good quality (I think you know that to) we
> Do you
mean the hand-soldered B slaves ? Yes, they were soldered by hand and low
quality. As you
> know we
already have one-pcb slave B that you took in 100 pcs in your last order. The
quality of
> these
slaves is perfect.
> Master
units, depends on qty and i can make super quality master, too.
>
> >
have to repair a lot of them, and no antennas and no power unit and this
> Repair
was in the beginning. Later this was reduced. If you had continued buying, we
would have
>
perfected everything and eliminated all these problems by now.
>
> Power
unit is county specific.
>
Antenna, you took like 2000 pcs from me, remember ?
>
> >
makes your product very expensive and impossible to put out on a bigger
> >
market to resellers so when we found this copy of the cardsplitter on a
> I
understand. But it was a mistake from you to copy the HW + FW. If you continued
with me, then
> we
> would
have came together to same solution. And you would be clean today and no dark
clouds was
> waiting
on your head. You would have (as now) your brand OEM box with good slave B and
dedicated
> new PCB
master unit B, too. Price was also as low as possible, near to HW/production
cost. But
> you
> cut me
off in a bad way and you chose to copy and build your future on a stolen
platform. You
> know
>
yourself, this is stupid and you can not have a future. Currently your goods
you sell as "Future
> Card
Splitter" must be renamed to "Past Card Splitter". Don't mind my
words, i like to write
> open
> minded,
no filter or sanctions.
>
> You say
China produce very cheap. I can produce more cheap than that. What qty did you
order
> them
> ? 10
sets as you did with me per DHL box? LOL. Order me the qty you let make in
China, and you
> will
get cheaper and without hassles. Your problem was me, you wanted to eliminate
me. And you
> talk
about "everybody profit" everyone except me, i don't understand your
point.
>
> >
Chinese trading site we order one sample to start and we was very surprised
> Please,
tell me the name/website/address of the Chinese company who did copy my HW. I
will not
>
consider cooperating with you if you do not tell me this. This is my only
request. You got
> nothing
> to
lose. Just be honest. I know you gave in order to copy the HW/FW. I'm not
2-years old to be
> fooled
by your version.
>
> >
The only thing that was no good was the firmware (a very early one) so we
> Which
old FW (SWID) of mine did they have copied ?
> So, you
load latest u30b before selling ? How do you want to make high qty sales if you
lose
> time
>
programming ? Isn't it better to cooperate with me ?
>
> >
have to reprogram it before selling. The hardware is 200%. And the price we
> The HW
is not 200%. Don't fool yourself. My latest slave B is 500% if so. Maybe the
master has
> just
better card slot and you could be right for the quality of master unit.
>
> >
pay is very low so now we got the opportunity to make something out of this,
> Ok. Now
you owe me an answer.
> Before
i told you my HW/production cost. I was honest with you. Remember, when we was
talking of
> high
qty 4 months ago. Now tell me, what does it cost you, what is your
HW/production cost ?
> What
> price
do you give to dealer and reseller ?
>
>
> >
because we will sell to Wholeseller, they sell to reseller and they sell to
> >
end customers and everyone have to make money.
>
Everyone to make money except me, the true owner ? Funny.
>
>
> > So
you most understand our point of view. But we will offer you to join us.
> I see
and i can say that you think too selfish.
> You
have no remorse in what you did and you think that i will simply continue the
development as
> a
> slave,
as someone without dignity ?
>
> >
> >
Our proposition to you looks like this.
> > We
take care of the hardware fabrication and you the software developing.
>
> No, you
know yourself this can't work. Only solution is that you get slaves from me.
>
> >
> >
Best regards
> >
Kenneth Henbo
> >
> >
> Date:
Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:03:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From:
cspro4 <cspro4@yahoo.com>
>
Subject: Re: SV: [SPAM] Re: SV: Warning
> To:
Teknikcompaniet <teknikcompaniet@bahnhof.se>
>
> Hello
Kenneth Henbo,
>
> Email
is the best, because you can take your time to write.
> I would
suggest, it's not the type of communication channel, but the contents of our
>
communication
> that
matters now, which you did not start yet. I have already started and asked many
questions.
>
> I want
to tell you that Decibit / Germany is outraged and i try to keep them calm.
Their next
> action
will depend on my answer what we can now manage to fix, since until recently i
was their
> best
customer.
>
> I list
you some facts:
>
> It's
not true that a company in CN made similar one.
> It's
99% same, maybe 1% deviation. The SW is copied from (Decibit + me) of course.
> There
is no chance to develop SW for it in such short time.
>
Especially when the HW is 99% the same.
>
> I'm
convinced, that it's you, who gave the order to them to do so.
>
> The
slaves are copied totally without slightest change.
> Same
situation with the master unit.
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