Bedste sub og forreceiver

Her er et billede af deres 10" 13" og 15" bare lige for at vise hvad for kraft kale vi har med at gøre her.
















Slår DD18 og svs ultra i test.. med en god margin.
  og så koster den ikke så meget.


De kan hentes hjem igennem de her :

http://www.jetcarrier.com/info/magporto.asp


Prøv at kigge her tester de deres 13" Av.2 , den får nogle tæsk....
Man høre så meget omkring misbrug af HT, og at de kan ramme bunden, lol med denne her enhed ville jeg ikke være spor nervøs.




http://www.icixsound.com/iv/view_video.php?viewkey=9fe29bf2a 537cfa420e8





her er test listen :

Here is the scoring summary with the Home Theater score and Music score, respectively shown as (HT-M).

Prices and whether the items are available Internet Direct or from a store are now included.

Keep in mind that ID pricing will usually be firm, or slightly discounted, where some BM products will see substantial discounts.

BM = Brick and Mortar.
ID = Internet Direct.
ID/SI = shipping included.

Elemental Designs A7-900 ($2200 ID/SI): 116 points (63-53)
Epik Conquest ($1599 ID): 112 points (60-52)
SVS PB13-Ultra ($1499 ID): 109 points (57-52)
Epik Castle ($999 ID): 109 points (59-50)
AV123 MFW-15 Duals: 109 points (56-53) (note, duals were tested as duals are offered as a package)
Creative Sounds Dual SDX-15 driver + Behringer EP-2500 Amp + Behringer DEQ2496 ($1630 ID): 105 points (57-48)
JL Audio Fathom 113 ($3500 BM): 103 points (53-50)
AV123 MFW-15 ($599 ID): 103 points (53-50)
Def Tech Trinity ($3000 BM): 102 points (54-48)
Velodyne DD-18 ($5000 BM): 100 points (50-50)
ACI Maestro ($2400 ID): 97 points (47-50)
eD A5-350 ($715 ID/SI): 96 points (50-46)
JL Audio Fathom 112 ($2600 BM): 95 points (45-50)
Hsu VTF-3 HO + Turbo ($999 ID): 94 points (47-47)
Hsu VTF-3 HO w/o Turbo ($899 ID): 92 points (45-47)
Hsu VTF-3 Mark III + Turbo ($799 ID): 92 points (45-47)
Epik Valor ($549 ID): 91 points (44-47)
Hsu VTF-3 Mark III w/o Turbo ($699 ID): 91 points (45-46)
SVS PB12-Ultra: 90 points (47-43)
Axiom EP-500 ($1230 ID/SI): 90 points (43-47)
Hsu VTF-2 Mark III + Turbo ($599 ID): 88 points (42-46)
SVS PB12-Plus/2 ($1299 ID): 87 points (47-40)
SVS PB12-NSD ($599 ID): 86 points (43-43)
Hsu VTF-2 Mark III w/o Turbo ($499 ID): 86 points (40-46)
Rocket UFW-12 ($999 ID): 85 points (provisional) (35-50)
Elemental Designs A2-300 ($350 ID/SI): 83 points (44-39)
SVS PB10-NSD ($429 ID): 83 points (43-40)
Dana Audio 600 ($869 ID): 83 points (36-47)
Rocket X-Sub ($199 ID): 78 points (34-44)
BIC H-100 ($229 eBay): 78 points (40-38)


*: The Hsu MBM-12 has been tried with several subwoofers here. We found it to be a good room solution, for times when the best placement with a subwoofer for the deep stuff did not necessarily give the best performance in the 50-80 Hz area. We could not come up with a consistent way of scoring it with the other subs, including the VTF-3 HO. Instead, it is suggested to be look at as a possible enchancement to any subwoofer package.

Listening procedures:

All listening us done under blind conditions. The panel of listeners include several very experienced audiophiles, some of whom also design and build high end pro audio speakers. The subwoofers were each placed in the identical room position, and eq'ed to have a fairly flat (3 dB window) response curve from 18 Hz and up, when the subwoofer was able to go that "low".


Measuring procedures: All measurements are taken at 2 meters/GP from the front baffle of a subwoofer. In the case of a ported sub, the microphone is placed so it is 2 meters from the center of the driver(s) and port. The posted measured results are max "clean" 20 Hz output and the average from 20 to 63 Hz. If it seemed like the amp was the limiting factor in output, "AL" is added to the 20 Hz SPL.


The purpose of this information is to help people to quickly look at a variety of subwoofers and get a pair of scores, some performance numbers, and some listening tests describing the characteristics of each subwoofer. Hopefully, this will provide some assistance when researching for a subwoofer purchase. There will be times that a lower rated sub will work better for someone than a higher rated sub. For example, size, or output, in a lower rated sub may make a difference. Listening preferences may also make a difference. If slam is valued over extension, some subs excel at the 30-60 Hz slam. For others, extension will be the most important issue.








her er link til det de beskriver omkring hver enkelt og hvor de valgte den plads de fik :

http://www.tweakcityaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11

Jeg er ikke helt sikker på at testen er betalt, men den er i hvert fald meget magelfuld eller udført af en person uden en ordentlig reference

(dermed ikke sagt at lars ikke sagtens kan have ret, man ville næppe blive forundret)

hvad der skriger i øjnene ved subben er:

-ekstremt ringe frekvensbrede
-alt for lille magnet
-meget lille bevægelse (det er mildest talt usagligt at kalde det long throw med sølle 21mm vandring)
-spider der er max det kvarte af enheden (dvs. at linær vandring er en fysisk umulighed hvis jeg husker korrekt)
-alt for lille forstærker, og ingen oplysninger om den
-10 db ved 15hz er alt for meget
-utroligt ringe ydelse frekvens/spl mæssigt når man tager størrelsen i betragtning, tilsvarende jbl enheder yder omkring 30 db mere
-de har antaget et næsten 20db roomgain i stedet for at måle
-åbenlyst mismatch imellem opgivede specifikationer og målinger

M&Ks varemærke er absolut ikke portet. deres varemærke er push/pull


rum eq ja er super fedt, men det kan købe for nogle af de penge man spare ved ikke at købe en ny velo DD18 og det med testen er betalt, har du overhovedet læst testen, og kigget på avs forum omkring denne her sub og deres mærke...?? nej det kan man tydeligt læse du ikke har, du er åbenbart mærke dyr og dyrt er det eneste der virker.